>>> The ones who truly love you will never lea...
So true.
Your karma wall is too high for me though
Its alright you can always post in here
this idea that we are contractual in our relationship with ourselves is historically specific. You have relations of mutual obligation as far back as the odyssey, and you have something like what this is saying in there too, but it isnāt quite like this.
Itās not until until the breakdown of the feudal order and the legal framework that emerges with modern states and the capitalist mode of production that people start thinking like this
It makes sense, since what defines like 99% of our lives (excepting people for whom we work or who lend out money to make a living or who are landlords, investors, or something else thatās economically parasitic) is the contract weāre sort of forced into entering into to sell our labor for what we need to live
But I think what is way more metaphysically and ethically exciting is the possibility that we might organize society in a way that lets āthe free development of eachā be the āprecondition for the free development of allā. Right now, the way you live your life is only up to you when youāre not working, and even that is organized socially to make you able to work again later. Imagine what it would be like if that wasnāt the case, and we devoted time and resources to what we collectively need, i...
nstead of what makes money and what middle class people can buy
Getting paid for a hobby, thatās the best deal so you can retire at forty, travel to Fiji or Maui, seek out whatās truly lovely and settle down with a family..cāest la vie
Hi, I'm new to this group. Glad I found you guys
Anyone sharing GPT fueled philosophical insights? š„ø
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Hereās a thing about western philosophy
Itās mostly spawned from ancient perverted dudes who never could have seen Internet being a thing and the cultural effects of modern women. Plus thereās no decent philosophy for women to follow
Thereās plenty feminist philosophers since the 1800s in fact when Wollstonecraft wrote , thereās Simone de Beauvoir , hell Iād argue that Betty Friedan is a philosopher
This disrespect is so unnecessary
Hello, Plato or Socrates? Which to read first?
It's a great question! If you're new to ancient philosophy, it's helpful to understand that most of what we know about Socrates comes through Platoās writings. So, reading Plato first can give you a clearer picture of Socrates, as well as an introduction to Plato's own ideas.
Platoās Dialogues feature Socrates as the central character, engaging in philosophical discussions, so you'd be learning about both thinkers simultaneously. A good place to start would be The Apology which recounts Socr...
The Apology which recounts Socrates' defense of his philosophy followed by The Republic which explores justice, the ideal state, and philosophy more broadly.
If youāre interested in Socratesā specific views, Platoās works are the primary source, but you could also look into Xenophonās Memorabilia, which offers a slightly different perspective on Socrates' life and teachings.
In short, reading Plato gives you an introduction to both, so Iād recommend starting there. ~ AI response š¤ š½ šš»
I agree with that , plus the symposium is easy to read mostly , AND you can find many of the dialogues dramatised
Hello, anyone wanna chat philosophy w me? Or psychology
