๐๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 5:19-20 ๐ช๐ผ๐ฟ๐ธ๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ณ๐น๐ฒ๐๐ต 20 ๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ง๐ฅ๐ฌ
Mary was just like any other woman. It would be idolatry to worship her.
By that logic taking a picture is idolatry
You're making an image of yourself and your family
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ถ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐ฑ๐ผ๐ฒ๐๐ป'๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ถ๐๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐ฟ ๐บ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ถ๐๐บ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ต๐ผ๐ฟ๐
So when God says "Let US" make men in OUR image in OUR likeness... who is "us"?
๐ฃ๐ถ๐ฐ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐น๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ป๐ป๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐น๐ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐๐ฒ๐บ๐ฝ๐น๐ฒ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ฝ
Is it not the Father, Jesus, and Holy spirit?
๐๐น๐ผ๐ต๐ถ๐บ ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ฆ,๐ฝ๐น๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐น
๐๐ป ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐
Just like a family. It's 1 family, many members
๐๐ผ๐ต๐ป 5:22 ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ด๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ป ๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ง ๐จ๐ก๐ง๐ข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ก
Very nice arguments. Good discussion we're having.
๐๐ณ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ต๐๐ฒ๐ต ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ ๐ฒ๐
๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ป ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ต๐๐ฒ๐ต ๐บ๐๐๐ ๐ฏ๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฐ๐น๐ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ต๐๐ฒ๐ต ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ
Omg you're not for real...
That verse is talking about the fact that the son carried all of our judgment in the cross..
1 ๐๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ 46:1 ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ผ๐ป ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ป๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐ข๐ณ ๐๐ฎ๐๐
It has nothing to do with who is judging who
Book of enoch is not biblical
But the son of man is jesus. And daniel prophesied that he had the authority of God
๐ฅ๐ผ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 14:10 ๐ช๐ฒ ๐บ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐น๐น ๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ง ๐ฆ๐๐๐ง ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ข๐
That why the pharisees wanted to stone Jesus
And that's why they ultimately killed him
2 ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ต๐ถ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 5:10 ๐ช๐ฒ ๐บ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ง ๐ฆ๐๐๐ง ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐ฆ๐ง
Or rather.... they let them
๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ต๐๐ฒ๐ต ๐ถ๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ป๐น๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ
So you're disregarding Jesus's Authority? Do you not worship Jesus?
๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ฒ๐น ๐ธ๐ป๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ผ๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ฒ๐น ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ผ๐ป๐น๐ ๐ฏ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฟ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ก๐ง ๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฑ๐ผ๐ฒ๐
Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God. They are God. They are also 3 distinct people
Only God is worthy of worship. And Jesus accepted worship.
The sole reason why the pharisees wanted Jesus dead its because he claimed to be God.
๐๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ฒ๐น ๐๐๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐บ ๐ช๐๐ง๐๐๐๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ฒ๐น 4:17 ๐ฎ๐ 1 ๐ฏ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฐ๐ต๐๐ฝ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ 15:8 ๐ต๐ผ๐น๐ ๐ช๐๐ง๐๐๐๐ฅ๐ฆ
๐๐น๐ผ๐ต๐ถ๐บ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ผ๐ฝ๐น๐ฒ,๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ข๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ถ๐๐ต 3 ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ผ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ฒ๐, ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ป๐ถ๐ฐ
I agree... 1 God, 3 beings
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ข๐ก๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ ๐ ๐๐ง๐๐ฃ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ท๐ฒ๐๐ถ๐๐ต ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฝ๐๐น๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ป๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ผ๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ ๐๐ง๐๐ฃ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐บ๐ถ๐๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐๐ผ๐ผ๐ฑ ๐๐ฐ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฝ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐๐น๐
๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ต๐ผ๐ฟ๐ ๐ถ๐ป ๐ท๐ผ๐ต๐ป ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ 6 ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ท๐ฒ๐๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ณ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ผ๐๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐ณ๐น๐ฒ๐๐ต ๐๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ ๐น๐ถ๐๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ
๐ช๐ต๐ฒ๐ป ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐๐ผ ๐ธ๐ถ๐น๐น ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ด๐น๐ผ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐น ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ป๐ป๐ถ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ป๐๐ถ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐,๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ท๐ฒ๐๐ ๐๐ถ๐น๐น ๐ณ๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ ๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐บ๐ถ๐๐๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐
๐ญ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฎ๐ต 12:10 ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐น๐น ๐น๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ ๐๐ฝ๐ผ๐ป ๐ ๐ ๐๐ต๐ผ๐บ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฃ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐๐
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ป ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ ๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ผ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐๐ต๐ผ ๐ถ๐ป ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฎ๐ต'๐ ๐๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ,๐ต๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐'๐ ๐๐ผ๐บ๐ฏ ๐๐ผ ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐ฎ๐๐๐ผ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ถ๐๐ต ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ฑ'๐ ๐น๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ด๐ฒ
๐๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐๐ผ ๐ฎ๐๐๐ผ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ถ๐๐ต ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ฑ ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฏ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐ต ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐บ๐ผ๐๐๐ต ๐ฎ๐น๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ
๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฒ ๐ต๐๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ผ๐ป๐น๐ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ก๐๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ฒ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ผ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐๐ถ๐ฐ๐ฒ
๐๐ฒ๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ 9:27 ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ผ๐ฝ๐น๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ก๐๐,๐ฎ๐ณ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐,๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐๐ถ๐น๐น ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ
๐๐ผ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฎ ๐น๐ถ๐ฎ๐ฟ?๐ก๐ผ๐ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ๐น๐น
๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฟ๐๐น๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ฎ๐น๐๐ผ ๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ธ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ฎ๐๐ด๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ธ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐ฒ๐
๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐๐๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐น๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐
๐๐ฒ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ฎ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ฎ๐๐ด๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ธ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ
๐ฅ๐ผ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 9:18 ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ถ๐น๐น๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ผ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐น๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป
