Not sure how Proverbs 5:3 is relevant to what we were talking about 🤔
My sincerest hope, which I hope is shared by all Christians, is to follow God's ways as honestly and truthfully as we can. I believe if Jesus came again today and saw the way the world treats His children just because they're gay, the way He made them, He would be deeply saddened and upset by how far we as Christians have strayed from His message of love. We've fallen for the same trap as the Pharisees by valuing the laws over people, and missing the point of the laws in the process.
The point of all of it is love. Every book, every verse, if your interpretation leads you away from love, or worse, against love, then I believe you are deeply mistaken.
And even if you still think homosexuality is a sin, it shouldn't change the way you treat them. We are here to share the good news of Jesus' love. God will convict the hearts of those who seek Him, not you. All you will do is turn people away from God, like those people who hold hateful signs. They are doing the opposite of what God asked us to do, and they will have to answer for it.
𝗟𝗼𝘃𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻'𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲
1 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 6:18 𝗞𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝗼𝗻 𝗿𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘀𝗲𝘅𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆
𝗦𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗽𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝘀𝗻'𝘁 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗻𝗼𝘄𝗹𝗲𝗱𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗯𝗼𝘁𝗵 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘄𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗲𝗽𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗰𝘀
2 𝗝𝗼𝗵𝗻 1:10-11 𝗜𝗳 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻'𝘁 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘁𝗵𝘀.𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.𝗔𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘄𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗲𝘃𝗶𝗹 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸
𝗨𝗻𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗛𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗶𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆
That's referring to the truth that Jesus was the messiah and died for us. No one here is arguing that. And look at Jesus' actions, who did He spend time with? How did He treat them? He loved the weak, the sick, the outcasts of society. He listened to them and ate with them. He pointed them to His father and blessed them.
The last will be first and the first will be last. Who is being treated as last today? That's where God is looking, and waiting to see how we treat them. “And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’”
Matthew 25:40 ESV
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If you love someone you will share the Gospel with them and lead them on the "narrow path" Matthew 7:7 KJV
>>> 𝗦𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗽𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝘀𝗻'𝘁 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗵...
Amen but many do not like correction. Matthew 10:14 KJV And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
It is not our job as Christians to "convince others" only share the Gospel Matthew 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
>>> 1 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 6:18 𝗞𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝗼?...
Amen. Sexual immorality is sin and homosexuality is sexual immorality
If you are homosexual you must repent and ask God to save you from these lustful and sexually immoral desires. For as 1 Cor 6:9 says homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of God. Paul the Apostle was very clear on this for a reason
Again, homosexual is a mistranslation as they had no word for what we refer to as homosexual. The only way that your belief that homosexuality is a sin works is if you also believe that sexual orientation is a choice. Otherwise you're left with a cruel God who punishes His children for being who He made them.
I do not believe it is a choice as that is what I've heard from 99% or gay people I've heard speak about it (with the exception likely being pretenders who want to be accepted by their families again, or even to avoid being murdered by their government, like I said before). Also, I don't believe I could change my orientation if I wanted to, so why would I believe that about others?
But you have to believe that they can change something so fundamental about themselves in order for your belief to work. That's why you insist on it, despite the evidence to the contrary. We have to see the world and people as they are if we want to apply God's laws correctly, and that means not disregarding hundreds of millions of gay people as liars when they say they can't choose to be straight.
That's what I believe, but you're free to see the world and your bt
Brothers and sisters in Christ as you see fit. I choose to believe them and support their love, as long as it is kind, selfless, humble, and all the other things love should be.
It's a sin to act out on homosexual desires not to be born homosexual and yes there are cases where people have been freed from homosexual desire through deliverance
God did not make us homosexual..men were perverted by the fallen angels and their perversions were passed down many bloodlines....please read the book of Enoch
It was excluded from the Bible for a reason as it exposes the spiritual afflictions many suffer from today and that is not because they were born or made a particular way by God but they were corrupted by dark spiritual forces
>>> But you have to believe that they can chan...
They can be freed from original sin through deliverance just as deliverance can free us of demonic possession
Original sin is a generational curse passed down through bloodlines and God did not cause nor create this
Ultimately ask God to reveal the truth to you. Do not trust the words of man 🙏
That is what I've done. The words of man have told me my whole life that gay people are an abomination. The things I've heard said about them by people who claim to be Christians made them seem like depraved, dangerous freaks. But as I grew up and thought about it myself, I realized they're just like the rest of us. They want to love and be loved.
Also you're proving my point. The only way your belief that homosexuality is a sin works is by believe texts that aren't God's word, and that homosexuality is either demonic possession or some genetic curse. The bible doesn't say those things; those are ideas you're using to make your preconceptions make sense.
You would rather discredit the words of hundreds of millions of gay people when they say their sexual orientation is not a choice, than take the time to listen to them and consider the possibility that maybe your view of the world and people is what's skewed. Can you atleast admit that if homosexuality is not a choice, then it cannot be a sin?
>>> Also you're proving my point. The only way...
God's word also condemns it
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Those hundreds of millions have been corrupted by original sin
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It's a choice to act on it
Just as some people are born pedophiles
>>> That is what I've done. The words of man h...
Okay then. I can only hope it's the truth 🙏
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
>>> That is what I've done. The words of man h...
Leviticus 18 is the word of God himself passed down to Moses
I very much doubt after the coming of Christ God's views on same sex relations has changed
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Be careful this could also be the devil deceiving us
Anyway I will discuss this no longer... Matthew 28:19-20
It's not my job to convince anybody
Follow what the Holy Spirit convicts you to believe 🙏
>>> It's not my job to convince anybody
Not "our" job*
Also read Galatians 1:8-9 and be careful about what you choose to believe
God's views on love have always been consistent. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.”
Galatians 5:22-23 ESV
